Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville
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bob1948 Membre Fan Club
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Subject: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 11.03.09 19:57
Extraits de Country Song RoundUp, avril 1957.
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 12.03.09 17:07
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 13.03.09 23:48
Merci pour ces coupures de presse, Bob... Ton oeil de lynx a t-il repéré un certain Jerry Hubbard sur la première photo ?
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 14.03.09 14:33
Et non, je n'avais pas reconnu Jerry Reed, le copain de Gene, et compositeur de Crazy Leg, Guitar Man, etc... Merci Stampede.
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 14.03.09 16:18
C'est drôle que le journaliste qui a écrit les légendes, ne l'ai pas mentionné.
Tu les connaissais, je suppose...
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 15.03.09 13:34
Voici la dernière photo de cette publication (pour la route, comme on dit).
Gilles, tu es le seul a réagir, merci ami.
Le manque de réactions et de dialogues m'étonne toujours autant.
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 16.03.09 0:57
Je suis tout autant surpris que toi... Ils n'ont pas du voir la lumière ! Tu devrais "parsemer" tes messages de "paillettes" et autres "joyeusetés" qui n'ont rien à voir avec le sujet... pour les attirer ! Ou alors, tu te trompes en pensant que ces documents sont peu courants. Chaque visiteur de ce forum devait les connaître depuis de nombreuses années ce qui n'a donc suscité aucune réaction ni remerciement ! Mais, continue à poster ce genre de "banalité", je suis personnellement preneur... Tout de bon, ami bob !
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 16.03.09 19:24
moi aussi je suis preneur Bob.
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 17.03.09 0:50
Continue Bob ,je pense que malgré le silence tout le monde apprécie ces photos.
Je joint ci dessous une interview de GENE où il parle de cette convention, je ne sais pas si les choses ce sont vraiment passé comme il le raconte mais apparemment il n'avait pas gardé un bon souvenir.
Jimmy je sais que c'est beaucoup te demander, ce serait bien si tu pouvais traduire
First published in International Times, March 1971
Some 13 years ago, Gene Vincent (né Vincent Gene Craddock) had the nation’s number-one song in a rockin’ ditty called "Be Bop-A-Lula" (it sold three million copies). It, along with Elvis’s "Hound Dog", Carl Perkins’ "Blue Suede Shoes" and Bill Haley’s "See You Later, Alligator" more-or-less spearheaded the 1956 American "rock revolution".
Presley, Perkins and Haley have all been heard from recently; not so with Vincent. At least, not in America. Since the success of "Be Bop-A-Lula", Vincent has spent the majority of his time in England, doing gigs and continually cutting records (which, somehow, have never made it over here).
"Carl Perkins was the first rock and roll singer. Even Elvis, you ask him, will admit it. If you ask Bill Haley he’ll admit it as well.
WHEN DID CARL PERKINS IN TURN INSPIRE YOU?
Well, Carl Perkins was down South … we were all down South, actually. Carl Perkins, me, Elvis Presley, Bill Haley was up north. Haley was into saxophones and horns and things like that. When it all started out, they called it rockabilly … I’ve got some Sun Records from that time here.
SO YOU STARTED OUT IN THOSE DAYS WITH JERRY LEE LEWIS AND PERKINS AND …
No, Perkins started first. Perkins was on his way to do the Ed Sullivan show when he hit a tractor and wrecked his back. So they said to themselves: who can we get to take his place? Well, they said that there was this boy called Elvis Presley and there’s one called Gene Vincent. But I was in the hospital at that time and Presley did it. On the Ed Sullivan Show.
I GUESS YOU MUST HAVE THOUGH ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF YOU HAD DONE THE SULLIVAN SHOW INSTEAD OF PRESLEY.
No, not really. I’m a singer. Listen, I never meant to make money. I never wanted it. I’m a singer, man. When I put out a record called "Be Bop-A-Lula", my only thought was to just make a living singing. But all of a sudden, I was getting $1500 a night. And you take a 19-year old boy and put him in those circumstances … I had a Cadillac and all. It was a bad scene. It shouldn’t have happened on that first record.
AFTER "BE BOP-A-LULA" DID THE COMPANY PUT PRESSURE ON YOU TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER QUICK HIT? TO MAKE THEM MORE MONEY?
Hey, everybody was making money ‘cept me. When I was 28, I got a letter from the Government saying I was a millionaire. I wish to hell they would have told somebody else about it … like me. I never knew about it. I never had that money. In fact, I’ve still got about 10 checks that were signed by my manager overseas … $10,000 or so. But I don’t care. I just don’t care. I know it sounds silly. But … look, let them take what they want. All I want to do is be myself and make a decent living. Not a lot of money, mind you. I already own a lot of property, I own a 42-foot yacht in bloody Hermosa Beach and all that jazz. But I just want to be me!
"BE BOP-A-LULA" MADE IT IN 1956. WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU AFTER THAT? DID YOU STILL TOUR?
Oh, yeah … sure. Before I went to England in 1960, I played in Europe. I went to Hamburg and met a group there. I was very impressed with them. We met and talked a lot … that was at the Star Club … They were really good. Now they’re called John Lennon and The Beatles. They didn’t have a record out or nothing. God, I could have picked them up so cheaply … which was so foolish of me. But, like I said, I’m a singer, not a bloody business man.
WHAT MADE YOU LEAVE THE US TO SETTLE IN ENGLAND?
The same thing that’s making me leave now.
YOU MEAN ALL THE OTHER FRUSTRATIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH SINGING?
No … you want to know the truth? Well, my brother-in-law is Mickey Most. I’m married to his wife’s sister … which is a shame. I brought my wife over here … my ex-wife, shall we say, and she brought her parents from South Africa, her sister, her bloody sister from Oregon and about 15 million other people – I can’t keep up with them all. And Mickey Most laughs. I know why he laughs now. That bloody bastard.
WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THAT TO? IS IT BECAUSE THEY HAVEN’T PROGRESSED TO THE PSYCHEDELIC STAGE?
Oh, what a charge you are. What is all this "progressed past" jazz? Listen, you play me one record … right there, there’s a whole bunch of them … you play me one record that isn’t rock and roll. Now they might play in minor chords, but it’s all rock. Pure and simple rock and roll. And you’re not going to lose it. People tell me I’m making a comeback. A comeback to what? What do you want me to comeback to? Working 350 days out of 365. No thank you. I’m too old for that now … I’m 33 already.
BUT YOU ARE MAKING A COMEBACK TO RECORDING … WITH AN AMERICAN PRODUCT.
Right, but I’ve been recording steady for the past 16 years.
THEN YOU JUST WANT TO DO GIGS, PERIOD.
Right. I’d sing for you, right now. But as far as all these managers and everything … Listen, let me tell you something. When I entered music, music was a fantastic thing. It was a competition; we all competed with each other. But since then, music has become a business … it’s more of a competition among businessmen. You stuff things down people’s throats, which they don’t like, and then you say: "Why is rock and roll coming back?" Well, rock and roll is coming back because people want the original … and, they’re going to have it. The people want it! They’re not businessmen or anywhing … they’re just people who enjoy the music. Here, I’m going to tell you something which you probably don’t know about. You’ve heard about this payola stuff that happened back in ’58? Well, they do the same thing now. All they do is give you a Swiss number, a Swiss bank account number. You play the record and you pick up $300 in Swiss money.
YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT ENGLAND?
I’m talking about here. The USA.
WHEN "BE BOP-A-LULA" CAME OUT AND EVERYBODY STARTED COMPARING IT – AND YOU – TO PRESLEY, WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION?
It’s quite a funny story. I was in the Naval Hospital, actually I was crippled up; I just had a hit [wound] in Korea. My mother said to me: "Son, why don’t you enter this contest?" I said, what bloody contest, what are you talking about? She said, why don’t you record something. So I recorded a thing that I wrote. I come in dead drunk and stumbled over the bed. And me and Don Graves were looking at this bloody book; it was called "Little Lulu". And I said, "Hell, man, it’s bebopalulu." And he said, "Yeah, man, swinging." And we wrote this song. And some man came to hear it … named Sheriff Tex Davis, and he bought the song from Donald Graves for $25, $25 dollars! So I recorded the song and told all my friends that I was going to get a Cadillac; cause all rock and roll singers had Cadillacs. So "Be Bop-A-Lula" came out and for three weeks nothing happened. Then some man in Baltimore started playing it and that bloody thing hit. It went to number 1 in every bloody place you went. But I didn’t know how to handle a hit. I was only a child … a boy. I went to Nashville. I walked in the door of the Prince Albert Hotel and had on a pink suit with a wine-coloured shirt. See, they hated me right from the start, cause I had the number one record in town. But I didn’t know that at the time. So I went to this big disk-jockeys’ convention in town and a person was playing there by the name of Bill Monroe. He had a bluegrass band. And everybody was sitting there. Then Faron Young got up and said: "There’s this fella in town; one of these rock and roll people who’s only going to last a year, if he lasts that long. But by the way he sings, he won’t." And then he said: "And there sits the boy. He might sing in a minute. His name is Gene Vincent." And man, I snuck out that door … crawled out of there. He brought me down so bad! So I went back to the hotel and there was this fella sitting there in the lobby who came up to me and said, "Excuse me, can I get your autograph?" And I said, "Haven’t I seen you someplace before?" And he said, "Yeah, my name’s Buddy Holly." He had out a record then called "Blue Days, Black Nights". It was a fabulous record. It’s like I say. We used to all sit around … me and Jerry Lee Lewis and Elvis Presley and Carl Perkins and we’d talk about things. If one of us had a hit, we’d say: "That’s fabulous. It’s a damn good song." But now, the people that I meet are so damn big headed … it’s not music any more, it’s business. But now … I’ve met Jim Morrison of the Doors … a fantastic person. Really a nice guy, and he takes me back to the people I knew in the old days. Listen, a star is not a star. We never considered ourselves that. I’m always pushing, man, to get something better. And that’s the same with Jim and fellas like John Sebastian.
HOW ABOUT THE EDDIE COCHRAN ACCIDENT? YOU WERE IN THE CAR WITH HIM?
Yeah, I picked him up and carried him 40 feet.
HOW’D THE ACCIDENT HAPPEN?
Well, people aren’t going to like this either, but … He had a girlfriend called Sharon Sheeley. She said she was engaged to him, which was the biggest goddamned lie I’d ever heard in my whole life. I never heard such a bunch of shit in my life. Anyway, we were in England on our way to London that night and Eddie said to me: "Gene, instead of getting on the train and fightin’ the whole way back, going with Sharon, why don’t we just drive?" So we hired a car. Usually I got in first, then it was Eddie and her. But this one night, I don’t know what happened, but she got in first, then Eddie and me. Eddie was killed cause he was in the middle. Now there’s only one way he could have been killed. That was throwing himself across her body. It’s the only way! We’ve tried to figure it out. Nobody’s really told the truth! If she’d tell the truth for a change. That man was a good cat, man, and he’s dead. I have a picture here, let me show you. This was made from a small picture I’ve got. I won’t give it to nobody because it’s mine. I treasure it as a treasured possession. Now see the crosses there? [Showed me a photo of Cochran with several white cross-designs scattered above Cochran’s head and in his hair.] This was taken a day before he died. See, one of those crosses is right in his half … taken a day before he died. God … explain that! Can you explain the picture? Where’d the crosses come from? As far as I knew, they weren’t there before. It’s incredible …
DID YOU HIT ANOTHER CAR?
No … it was a chauffeur-driven car and he hit a lamppost going about 80. Eddie went out the door … skidded 250 yards on the back of his head. I was thrown on the grass and had my whole left side broken up. I picked Eddie up and carried him. When we got to the hospital I told the doc: "I’ll give you a million dollars if you can save his life." He said he was dying. I said "He can’t die." He said, "Well, he is." I said "He’s not." I guess I tried to help him too much. I had a doctor flown in by helicopter … a brain surgeon. He operated … then Eddie died. 272 concussions across the back of his head. You know, his mother and father never even called me. Never even talked to me. But that man was like my brother. I knew him like nobody else did. They have never even called! Eddie told me things, whispering before he died, that he wanted to tell them. Have they called and asked me? No … I’d gladly tell them. It’s been almost eight years. Why don’t they ask me? I’ll tell you why they don’t. We had a man … we were working almost eight months on the road. We had a man called Norm Riley. Now we had picked up almost ¼ of a million dollars on our tours … me and Eddie … and we were leaving for Bristol that night. And Riley he … now, now do you go about stealing ¼ of a million dollars? Can I tell you how? He booked himself into a mental hospital, got out and collected the money and booked himself back in. Now you can’t touch him. Who are you going to get? The police?
HOW MUCH MONEY HAVE YOU GONE THROUGH SINCE "BE BOP- A- LULA"?
Oh, at least 3 million dollars. Now what have I got? It’s amazing.
HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT GOING INTO ANOTHER BUSINESS?
Into what? No, man … I’m a singer. A bloody singer! It’s my living … my life.
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 17.03.09 3:11
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 17.03.09 14:29
Merci, Crazytime, ça fait plaisir...
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 17.03.09 17:50
C'est à propos du différent dont parle Gene, avec Faron Young.
Ils n'ont pas été longtemps fâché, semble-t-il...
Dommage qu'il n'y ait pas de photo de la rencontre entre Gene et Buddy (à ma connaîssance).
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 18.03.09 1:44
Faron a du se rendre compte que Gene etait un vrai talent. il n'y a que les imbeciles qui ne changent pas d'avis;
FARON YOUNG-FORGIVE ME DEAR - 1950's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1zw5pZ5q5E&feature=related
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 18.03.09 19:37
J'en ai trouvé une autre où il a le même costume.
Et en plus, son guitariste soliste, a une Gretch 6120, avec un P 90 Gibson, comme Cochran.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCvbgVpsVPY
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 19.03.09 14:23
hey Bob , cool les Photo de press , je ne les connaissaient pas , merci de les partager avec nous !
steff
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 19.03.09 16:06
Hi Steff, je suis content de partager ces quelques documents avec vous tous, qui êtes aussi des passionnés de cette musique.
Je pense que se sont des photos peu connues, en tout cas en France.
Personnellement, je ne les connaissais pas.
J'en ai entendu parler lors d'un échange de mails avec un fan-expert que je croyais du fin-fond du Texas, ou d'Alabama, alors qu'il est, semble-t-il de la banlieue sud de Paris (les pseudos...). Stampede doit s'en rappeler. Je les ai aquis depuis peu sur un site d'enchères bien connu.
Tout cela pour dire que le dialogue et le partage est essentiel, même dans le domaine du R'n'R.
Merci Steff et à ceux qui m'ont répondu.
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 21.03.09 1:55
bob1948 wrote:
J'en ai trouvé une autre où il a le même costume.
Et en plus, son guitariste soliste, a une Gretch 6120, avec un P 90 Gibson, comme Cochran.
ce n'est pas tout à fait le meme costume:D ,par contre la 6120 a un haut de manche que je n'ai jamais vu.
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 21.03.09 15:12
hey Bob mon ami ( virtuel avant que l' on se rencontre ) dès que tu poste un articles ou autre fotos , je te rassure , tu fais des heureux ! et merci aussi a Manu , tonton Gil etc. de nous faire aussi partager leur "savoir " !
Steff (qui est connecté tout les jours pour vous lire les copains , mais a qui on a coupé les doigts pour repondre plus souvent ! lol)
amitiés
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 21.03.09 16:35
Hi Steff, on s'est même croisé sur l'International...
Pas de problème, ami, et tu donnes souvent ton avis. C'est sympa et ça encourage. Amitiés.
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 21.03.09 16:42
Hi Manu, moi non plus, je n'avais jamais une tête de Gretsch comme celle-ci. Custom Shop ou Special Limited Serial.
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Subject: Re: Gene visite la C.M.D.J. Convention juin 1956, Nashville 23.03.09 17:43
si vous en trouvez une, pensez à moi. c'est bientôt mon anniversaire
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